Auction Listing Specialist Certification not for auctioneers

We’ve received some search traffic from users searching for the phrase Auction Listing Specialist. As involved as we are with the National Auctioneers Association (NAA) and not ever hearing of such a course or designation, we decided to search it out as any responsible skeptic would.

It seems that Auction Listing Specialist is a course offered by a Delaware company called Auction Work at Home. It looks to be an instructional course for eBay users, not auctioneers. From what we can tell, the concept is that the service farms out to its members the labor for creating eBay listings and processing the sales and rebates on merchandise sold.

Skimming through the extremely long information page that describes the service, you can find an asking price of $197. You’ll also see warnings at the end of the page about how the price will soon go up substantially, how there are very limited time benefits available for those who sign up immediately and how today is probably the final day before they reach their limit. It seems there are only so many people who can take the course, though the material advertises elsewhere how over 1,000 people have already taken the course. Smart money says that the page hasn’t changed in some time and won’t for some time.

You’ll see the claim that “this is the only certified program in the world for auction listing…”. We think that the program isn’t so much for auction listings but rather for eBay listings. While eBay uses competitive bidding for some of the listings there and can technically be described as an auction marketplace, auctions are rapidly becoming a minority of selling methods on eBay, and calling an eBay training service an Auction Listing Specialist course seems like it might open the door for some people to mistakenly assume that the course is for auctioneers instead of eBay users.

We couldn’t find in the offer materials the name of the person or agency who certified the program and didn’t certify any other programs. While it’s the first and only eBay listing program we’ve seen, we haven’t look very hard for any others. We know for a fact that the Auction Technology Specialist (ATS) course offered by the National Auctioneers Association is a course certified by the NAA Educational Institute and that it does a good job instructing auctioneers how to do a good job listing items for real auctions. It is the only technology and auction listing course offered by the National Auctioneers Association.

The business model description includes references to a fixed profit of something like $13 per listing. This information suggests that each listing would have a fixed price or a minimum, which means that the listings wouldn’t really be auctions anyway. If the listings are truly auctions, the business model would have to ensure that at least $13 profit was made on each item, but capping the payments to the person listing the items means that any additional profit, based on the sales price less the cost of goods sold and less eBay’s commissions, wouldn’t go to that person.

The materials also reference processing rebates. We’ve purchased items from eBay that have had the bar codes cut off and now wonder if such products might have originated from services such as this one.

All in all, this program makes many claims and statements that deserve a skeptical investigation. It may be a viable and profitable enterprise, but we’ve studied it enough to know two things. If we wanted to be more educated about listing items on eBay, we’d visit the eBay Learning Center. If we wanted to learn how to be better at listing items for auctions, we’d take the Auction Technology Specialist course offered by the NAA.

UPDATE: After this post was published, I tried to close the tabs. Two JavaScript pop-ups prevented me from doing so. One pop-up offered an additional $50 discount which brought the price down to $147 and the other strongly encouraged me not to leave. I’m still not gong to say this service is a scam, but if it isn’t then why does it employ the same JavaScript pop-ups commonly used by scam sites?

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Aaron Traffas, CAI, ATS, CES

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Aaron Traffas, CAI, AMM, CES, is an auctioneer from Medicine Lodge, Kansas. He is currently community evangelist for Purple Wave in Manhattan, Kansas. Aaron serves as the current president of the Kansas Auctioneers Association and in the past has served on the National Auctioneers Association Education Institute Board of Trustees. He is a past instructor at CAI and co-wrote and instructed the ATS designation course from NAA. He currently instructs the Internet Auction Methods course offered by the NAA. An active contract bid caller, he has competed in multiple state auctioneer contests including placing twice within the top 5 in Kansas. During the summer, Aaron operates a farm in south central Kansas. Aaron is an active singer and songwriter and the Aaron Traffas Band's latest release, Enter: The Wind, can be found at iTunes, Amazon and Spotify.
  • I'm getting the gist of your site, now as an actual objective reporting venue for auction technology news. This seems to be a niche that needs filling and it appears from what I've read so far, you'll do a great job filling it.

    I agree with the context of the story buy the way, and I think people are on to those tired old, “act now, because the price is going up” ad.

    Thanks for informing the auction community of this and no doubt saving many of us time.

    AW

  • I'm getting the gist of your site, now as an actual objective reporting venue for auction technology news. This seems to be a niche that needs filling and it appears from what I've read so far, you'll do a great job filling it.

    I agree with the context of the story buy the way, and I think people are on to those tired old, “act now, because the price is going up” ad.

    Thanks for informing the auction community of this and no doubt saving many of us time.

    AW

  • Customer Support

    We are the folks behind Auction Listing Employment Agency and we are here to help. Our Customer Support Specialists are available by phone and email to address any inquiries that you may have. We can be reached at 1-866-251-9132 or [email protected] to meet your needs. Please don't hesitate to contact us!

    Thank You,
    Customer Support
    Auction Listing Employment Agency

  • Customer Support

    We are the folks behind Auction Listing Employment Agency and we are here to help. We apologize for any confusion. Our Customer Support Specialists are available by phone and email to address any inquiries that you may have. We can be reached at 1-866-251-9132 or [email protected] to meet your needs. Please don’t hesitate to contact us!

    Thank You,
    Customer Support
    Auction Listing Employment Agency

  • Customer Support

    We are the folks behind Auction Listing Employment Agency and we are here to help. We apologize for any confusion. Our Customer Support Specialists are available by phone and email to address any inquiries that you may have. We can be reached at 1-866-251-9132 or [email protected] to meet your needs. Please don’t hesitate to contact us!

    Thank You,
    Customer Support
    Auction Listing Employment Agency

  • KeeperBay

    This isn't a scam as much as it isn't worth your time or money.
    The very first clue is that DOBA logo everywhere. DOBA is not a wholesaler. Wholesalers require Tax ID #, you are not going to get an great deal from DOBA, you will get ripped off. The next clue, take the company name “Auction Listing Employment Agency” and Google it! If you get 4 pages worth of scam reports before you find the companies homepage – you should be reading the first 4 Google Pages. At the top of their homepage you will see icons for HP, FedEx and others, but the little statement at the bottom reads:
    *** The images displayed hereon have been supplied by Work At Home Recruiters and are the copyrighted property of Work At Home Recruiters. Work At Home Recruiters is not affiliated with, endorsed by or in any way associated with any of Hewlett Packard (HP), Kmart, Continental Airlines, Abercrombie & Fitch, PIXAR, or Federal Express (FedEx). Work At Home Recruiters does not have the express permission of Hewlett Packard (HP), Kmart, Continental Airlines, Abercrombie & Fitch, PIXAR, or Federal Express (FedEx) to display the Hewlett Packard (HP), Kmart, Continental Airlines, Abercrombie & Fitch, PIXAR, or Federal Express (FedEx) logo.

    So why are they using their logos?
    Stay clear!

  • KeeperBay

    Um in addition to my previous post, you cannot close the page unless you click OK allowing them to download software to your computer.
    To escape from the page, right click on the tab and reload, while the page is reloading close it.

  • for me its still better to have a regular job in one company than to take risk on working at home.

  • Brandon

    so how do you get started?

  • I would think you wouldn't want to. If you want to be an auctioneer, you should go to auction school. If you want to list on eBay, find stuff to sell there and list it – don't look for a too-good-to-be-true service that will list everything for you.

  • John Campello

    I got scammed by AuctionListingEmploymentAgency $197.00 The suggested add said $5.00 made for every listing. Now I'm fighting for my money back. On 10-13-2009 I made the purchased and finally decided to begin listing on 2-13-10 and found out Doba and AuctionListingEmploymentAgency are in bed together, so between my credit card company and a great argument I put up against Doba I managed to get my card credited in 3 weeks (I hope) As for AuctionListings and there website anybody remotely that has anything to do with them, I will write to whoever and every necessarily means needed to discredit them! Or until I get my money back!!! They are a scam!!! ((RED FLAG))

  • litlejohn

    Thank you so much for taking the time to inform the public about “offers” such as this. Before reading what you revealed, I was considering buying into this. However, I was curious about its validity, which is why I searched for more information. Thank you for providing it.

  • Customer Support

    We apologize if our program did not meet your expectations. We provide a 90 day refund policy to accommodate anyone that feels this way.

  • kimberly

    I knew it had to be a BIG SCAM!! These people are criminals and should be exposed and dealt with accordingly. Shame on them for preying on innocent victims who are only looking for ways to feed their families and meet monthly obligations during difficult economic times. I too, was nearly a victim. So glad I found this article before it was too late. Jennifer Johnson, I honestly do not know how you and your partners in crime are able to sleep at night, while lying to and stealing from during the day. You and others just like you are what is wrong with the world today. The internet has given you a license to steal, though you need to remember, whether you believe or not, KARMA IS REAL! Your fake life may be good now, but just wait. You will see.And by the way please stop sending your repetitive mailings to my inbox.

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  • Brenda

    I'm glad I read your article. I almost bought into their program. They only offered me a $10 discount if I signed up within 10 minutes!

  • Carol

    Hi Aaron,
    Thanks for exposing this scam. I was very close to purchasing this. I don't think there's any Home Based business that you can make good money without doing some real work. I found this on careerbuilders/ careerpaths.com website as a “sponsored link”, which I though would make it more trustworthy, wrong! I did screen shots throughout the whole process, and thinking of sending this to the Better Business Bureau. Also thinking of contacting Careerbuilder to have the ad removed from their website. For most of us desperately looking for jobs on a career site, it is very inappropriate to have this kind of link!

  • Brneyegrl1227
  • Carol

    Hi Aaron,
    Thanks for exposing this scam. I was very close to purchasing this. I don't think there's any Home Based business that you can make good money without doing some real work. I found this on careerbuilders/ careerpaths.com website as a “sponsored link”, which I though would make it more trustworthy, wrong! I did screen shots throughout the whole process, and thinking of sending this to the Better Business Bureau. Also thinking of contacting Careerbuilder to have the ad removed from their website. For most of us desperately looking for jobs on a career site, it is very inappropriate to have this kind of link!

  • Brneyegrl1227
  • Lvahle

    I have been charge 205 dollars for the Catherine Thomas Course to become an e-auctioneer in ten lessons with a quiz after each lesson and then an Additional $99.00 for tech support who called me up and hung up on me. Then 3.95 insurance for the course. Anonymous

  • Sunlightweb

    The #1 best money making home based job on the internet is

    SCAMS

    It takes hard work, self starter, and creativity.

    Scamming is the best way to make money from a home based job!

    Get out there and start scamming and ripping people off today!

  • Javier

    All I have to say is thank god I found this post, because I was just about to purchase this program myself. I saw your post and others like it and that convince me even more that it was a scam. Thanks a lot Kimberly.

  • Tapanga6920

    Dear Sir:

    I purchased this program you are commenting about and found it to be very boring to read. I am still trying to read it. If your company would like I will mail my thin paperback book to you and then you can tell us all what you think. I do not want to invest my time reading and trying something that will really waste my time and energy. If it would also help you find out the most information I will send all log in information so you can try it out. My e-mail address is [email protected]. Please be advised that I do not anyone else take advantage of.